sorry to divert once again to martial arts, but since i don't actually have a "wing chun blog" i will merge my two interests (wing chun and taiwan stupidity) in one post. bear with me. i'll try to make it relevant to taiwan/chinese culture.
wing chun is full of shit. yes it's a good style, but there is some defintite bullshit going on in this style:
1. centerline theory- wing chun people claim "most of your important organs are on the centerline, so you must protect them by placing your guard there". oh really? which ones? your liver, pancreas, spleen, kidneys, even heart, are NOT ON THE CENTERLINE. and forget about " pressure points" on the centerline. i'd rather you hit me with your fancy smancy pressure points than get a DIRECT HIT to my liver because i was too stupid to guard it like a good boxer does.
2. a straight line produces the most power- if so, then why do baseball players swing the bat in an arc? why not just bunt? cause straight lines don't produce much power. torque and circular motion DO. i'd take a wing chun punch over a left hook from a boxer anyday.
3. intercepting is better than blocking- hate to tell you this, but in order to intercept (punch someone while they're punching you, without him actually hitting you) your action would have to be TWICE AS FAST as his initial action, because REACTION IS ALWAYS SLOWER THAN ACTION! there is a time lag between when he starts the action and when you percive the action, to when you react. and a good boxer gives nearly ZERO indication as to where and when he's going to hit you.
4. fuck your sifu- so tired of seeing westerners the size of football players groveling over little old chinese guys, calling them master. straighten your back, stop bowing, and get a life.
5. fuck your lineage- show me which lineage is winning in the MMA, and i'll listen, other wise shut the fuck up. half of the history your master told you is bullshit anyway, and it's damn well not worth having death matches over.
6. i learned the system , so i'm deadly - if it were that easy to be a badass, the whole world would be filled with an army of wing chun geeks wreaking havoc. luckily, things like toughness and killer cunning can't be taught in schools, and don't really even require a martial art to have. so prepare to get your ass kicked one day, no matter who much kung fu you know.
7. let's chi sao in public- a really narcisstic, stupid activity.
8. theory theory theory- til you get hit or taken to the ground. then theory doesn't mean jack does it?
.... all for now. tired of writing.
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totally agree
ReplyDeleteI believe the center line theory the way it s taught here is actually wrong. The center line should be the one between you and the opponent, not the vertical line so many chuners always talk about.
The vital points thing is also total bullshit, in a fight any area you hit should hurt like it was a vital point.
Many people here just repeat what they heard from their teacher without questioning, so did their teacher and their the teacher before, and so on.. in the end well nobody knows why they re doing something or they just do it wrong (how can you try to sell a center line theory when your moves are everywhere but in the center?).
Plus, if it s not natural, it most likely wont work in any fighting situation.
Always a pleasure to read your blog!
Have someone https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E-3adZYY0zg do this to you come back and tell me if the vital points thing is bullshit, oh wait you'd be dead before that even happens hahaah oh the irony, ok time to get serious, it's not the style that's bad it's the practicioner you moron
DeleteIt makes me think why would someone go thru tbe wasted time of coming here to state it.
Deletethanks for coming by.
ReplyDeleteyes the centerline is between your opponent and you, while the MOTHER line is down your front.
i'm in the process of workign out the most practical techniques for myself. i think the first year of wing chun is the most useful. after that, it get ridiculous.
i tell people, "take a year of wing chun, then go get in some gracie jujitsu and some muay thai. if you can somehow synthesize those 3, you'll be awesome!"
take care.
It doesn't matter how long you've trained it matters how long you've learned from your training, this proves how small your knowledge now wing chun is that's just sad
Deleteif what i'm saying is wrong, why has wing chun failed in the UFC, not once, but EVERYTIME?
DeleteI don't think there is anything in wing chun that is not done much better in xingyi.
ReplyDeleteWC does seem to be one of the more culty CMA with way too much faith in the tradition as you said.
I bet it would totally kick butt against someone with little training, but it's just way to stiff and limited in its ranges of motion to deal with anything that can be soft and hard, and ultimately leads to a formless, very free style based on proper human body mechanics.
I'd love to chat a bit more in person about MA and Taiwan in general, but that's up to you I guess. Email me if you'd like to get coffee or just sit in a park and shoot the breeze.
Peace.
People like you can't get it through your thick skull that there is no superior art only superior practicioner, it sucks that you're dumb as fuck
Deletedude, are you ok? there's no hate on this site. nobody hates you for loving wing chun. it's an ART, but unfortunately, i have to stop there. fighting must be based on science.
DeleteDon't worry Lin, he is a hateful violent person this Miguel guy, just google his name, he has been arrested for killing a man.
Deleteprivate message me. thanks for coming by!
ReplyDeletechinese kung fu is bullshit
ReplyDeleteI agree 100% chunner for 7 yrs its shit too much crap n doesnt work in reality....
ReplyDeleteit does work in reality, in order for it to work in reality its training must be applied to real life, stupid idiot!
Deletemiguel, calm down.
DeleteWow, Miguel was so violent, I am not surprised he is a killer! May he rot in jail!
DeleteIf you have vacation to Indonesia, lets come to Lombok Island to fight with my Wing Chun Sifu,... and try kill him with yours MMA... if you can defeat him, i believe about all that you have written and will stop study wing chun... you can add my facebook on hadigunahiureka@yahoo.com
ReplyDeletehate to say this, but it's for your own good.
DeleteFUCK YOUR SIFU.
You have serious issues sonny.
DeleteAll of you western people that hate wing chun practicioner, can come to Lombok Island, Indonesia, and fight with my sifu (asian people, short, and skinny), no glove, no helmet, no rule, please contact me at facebook, my email: hadigunahiureka@yahoo.com thanx.
ReplyDeleteAll of you western people that hate wing chun practicioner, can come to Lombok Island, Indonesia, and fight with my sifu (asian people, short, and skinny), no glove, no helmet, no rule, please contact me at facebook, my email: hadigunahiureka@yahoo.com thanx.
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ReplyDeleteThere are many different styles of wing chun. An individual must make the art work for him, regardless of style. Wing chun is a life style not just a martial art.
ReplyDeletei agree with you, and will add this: wing chun is a lifestyle. it's a study, and a very worthwhile one, if you don't plan on going in the ring. unfortunately, wing chun has become a religion. and in that regard, a dangerous one.
DeleteI have trained wing chun fighters to compete against muaythai and kick boxers in 15 fights for more wins than losses. Without fitness and guts anyone can be beaten!
ReplyDeleteWhy put shit on martial artist. We all strive for the same goals and ambitions, to reach our full potential.
good for you, but i'll guarantee you what you ended up with didn't look like wing chun.
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DeleteLin find another place to spread your unfounded bullshit you fucked up loser
Deleteit's not bullshit and it's not unfounded. and until wing chun wins first place in UFC, wing chun can find another place to spread its unfounded bullshit.
ReplyDeleteand PS , this IS MY PLACE. my blog. i say whatever i want to. you however, are out.
You and the rest of the brainwashed idiots are just a whole bunch of fucking followers. all you really brought up was mma and ufc and yall think yall are some type of fucking gods. its sad that people cant even talk about martial arts without some idiot assuming "mma/ ufc is better" get your head out of your ass YALL ARE NOT GODS!!!! I bet you probably think boxers are invincible too right?
DeleteJust came by this blog. It's true, Wing Chun is a load of bull shit. However, you're mistaken on a few things. The centre line is not where all the organs are. However, you do have your nose, throat and groin on that path. These are targets, especially the throat. The centre line is the path you want to control, so that your opponents strength is off target. Next, you don't hit on a straight line because it is the most powerful. A straight line is the shortest route from the fist to the target. However, because it's not powerful, you need to back it up with a succession of chain punches. It looks and is pathetic, but that's the science behind it. Regardless, it is definitely a load of shit.
ReplyDeletelet me guess "mma and boxing are the best styles" to you right you guys are clowns
DeleteYou're ignorance, arrogance, obnoxious and foul mouthed. You give any art a bad name.
ReplyDeleteWing Chun is not offencive fighting style, and all the kids here who keeps telling that after WC wins UFC, then come to tell. It can't. WC point is to incapacitate the enemy. Hit to vital parts as eyes, neck, crouch or knee caps etc. which will hurt as fck or fuck u up. This is not allowed in UFC, and would be so unethical.
ReplyDeleteAbout the center line defence, reason you keep your hands at middle is that from centerline it is SHORTEST distance to defend incoming strikes from any direction.
About the straight line punch, Watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ7FuooWtRU . Even one inch punch is able to make more force, than professional boxer. It's about technique and tons of practice, (maybe Chi is a thing, perhaps...?)
Nothing in this thread has been researched, and straight hate speech.